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Ukara and site travel
« on: January 09, 2011, 02:43:13 am »
Hey guys, long time no see havant been on here for a while :P
Ive been out of airsoft for a few months but have now gotten back into the hobby. I gather I should ask Firkit this but though I would ask on here, ive played airsoft for just over a year an a half at DV to which ive played about 5-6 games so I know im elegible for UKARA. I was wondering though, with the form of photo ID I need to bring, would a passport be ok if its out of date? Thats the only form of photo ID I have at present.

Also, my 18th was in December and couldnt really do anything for it due to the crappy weather, so I'll be bringing a party of around 6 noobs for you all to shoot at on the
23rd  :D Ive got transport arranged for getting to and from DV. My only concern is that our lift will be waiting outside the main gate and was wondering if it could be arranged for someone to take us from the safe zone to the entrance/exit gate at the end of the day?

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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 05:58:22 am »
I can't see a problem with an out of date passport, it would still prove you are you. But if you're 18 and the passport has expired doesn't that mean you're about 12/13 in the photo?

Might be worth getting some up to date photo I'd like one of those proof of age cards the pubs use.

I'm sure we can sort out lifts from/to the gate on here between now and the 23rd.




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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 10:10:50 am »
I can't see a problem with an out of date passport, it would still prove you are you. But if you're 18 and the passport has expired doesn't that mean you're about 12/13 in the photo?

It would, yes. Adult passports are only issued once you are 16 and are valid for 10 years. Child passports are only valid for 5 years. I'd say that the photo won't be a true representation, unless Welshwarrior has a babyface. :P

Welshwarrior> You could try applying for a new adult Passport anyway. The Direct Gov website states that first adult Passports can take up to 6 weeks. I used the Post Office Check & Send service when I applied for mine (It's good to use them anyway, for about a tenner fee they check all the paperwork is filled in correctly) and it came back within two weeks. I didn't have to attend an interview though.

And to be honest, in this day and age, I'd not wander around without a valid form of photo identity. It only takes a jobsworth copper to take a dislike to you and you'll end up a cell until they can verify your identity.



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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 04:16:11 pm »
And to be honest, in this day and age, I'd not wander around without a valid form of photo identity. It only takes a jobsworth copper to take a dislike to you and you'll end up a cell until they can verify your identity.


Without highjacking the thread, thats not strictly true. There are dozens of ways of checking somones identity without arresting them and an arrest should always be a last resort. Jobs worth or not the custody sgt will ensure you've taken the necessary steps to identify a person before they authorise detention i.e. have you taken them home and checked it yourself.

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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 01:09:24 am »

And to be honest, in this day and age, I'd not wander around without a valid form of photo identity. It only takes a jobsworth copper to take a dislike to you and you'll end up a cell until they can verify your identity.





Maybe in Nazi Germany...

Unless you're under reasonable suspicion of committing a crime, refusing to provide ID won't result in an arrest, although it's unlikely to expediate a conclusion to your encounter with the law. If you don't have sufficient ID on you, that's of no consequence unless, as I have stated, you are under suspicion of committing a crime.

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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 09:15:36 am »
Well, yes.

But even so, I always carry ID because if I'm ever in the circumstance where I need an ID, I'd rather have it than not. It's just easier. Plus it would make me more easily identifiable should I ever be involved in some horrific accident or something.

Anyway, we're wandering off topic here...
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 11:31:52 pm »
o...........k lol, thanks guys.
Monkfish -  I actually dont really look that different from the photo lol, regrettably you can still tell its me.

Ive booked me and my party in anyways, if the passport wont do I will try and get one of those I'd cards you can get from the police. My wallet was pinched a few weeks ago along with my licence so I cant use that till it gets here. If I cant get any ID it dosent matter im in no real rush for UKARA.
More importantly is the lift from the safe zone to the gates in the convoy, I usually scab a lift off of someone to the gate but with a party of 6 its not going to be easy, hopefully we can sort something out down there  :P

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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 12:04:20 am »
There's usually quite a few people dropped off at the gate and we're quite adept at slotting them into people's spare seats. The important thing is that you then arrange with whoever gets you in that they also get you out again!




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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 01:16:02 am »
every time time ive came before, our car was allowed to drive in with the rest, then was escorted back out again after it dropped us off. Its not a big deal as im sure it will be sorted, you guys are pretty friendly down there  :laughsoutloud:
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 09:14:53 am »
I will probably have a spare seat should anyone need one. Only the one though, the other one is mine. :P
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2011, 06:03:15 pm »
In the case of ID you're best off getting a new driving license or passport. I work in a pub so as you can imagine I deal with ID all the time, if you were to give me an expired passport I'd clip the corner and tell you to f**k off. Also, don't bother with the Validate cards, they're a waste of time and money. If you're lucky and find somebody leniant you could cover the expiry issue by providing other documentation such as a recent water/electric/phone etc. bill containing a name and address that corresponds with the Passport.

But like I said, you're best off getting a new form of photo ID.

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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2011, 09:50:29 pm »
...somebody leniant...

Not me then. An expired passport with a photo of someone when they were 13 isn't going to do the job. We have to keep a record of what we've seen in case you are ever involved in a court case related to the sale, import or manufacture of RIFs so we want be sure that we've got the bases covered for your sakes and ours.




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Re: Ukara and site travel
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 10:03:48 pm »
Its no worries guys, Im no real rush for UKARA, I just wanted to see if the passport was suitable. I've got my bike licence arriving in 2 weeks so I can sort it at the next event after the 23rd. Cheers for the clarification though.

Save starting a new thread  :P Probably should ask Jeff this but I can probably do it myself if I had a chrono. I'll be putting a 120 pss10 spring into my VSR for the 23rd which should put the fps well over the 350 limit, it should pushing 400. I would I be able to chrono it in the cave then cut the spring down to the suitable level during the warm up game?

Sorry for all the questions, I feel like a ickle noob again  :oops:
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